Jan 31, 2013 6:00am EST
. it's all fear based. >> and -- >> i thought mark kelly was the best of all. >> we're going to show all this because there was such powerful testimony on capitol hill. >> did you see it? >> it was great. i got a big laugh out of wayne lapierre. he actually trotted out the survivalist argument. >> i know. i saw it. we're going to show it. >> we might have a hurricane, and then it's going to be like stephen king, zombies. you know, you get three shots into a zombie, seriously. did anybody read "the road"? did anybody read "the road"? has nobody seen "the book of eli"? has nobody seen "the book of eli," really? that gary oldman character, he's scary. and if you just have a glock -- >> okay. >> you won't see a bible. >> no, you are cooked. a street sweeper. >> i need my bushmaster because the zombies are coming after me. there's going to be a tornado. the power grid's going down. locusts are going to descend from heaven. is glenn beck still selling survival seats, willie geist? >> i didn't get the subscription when he went to the new network. he did have those ads on fox but i haven't s
Jan 30, 2013 5:00pm EST
mark kelly. a ban on large capacity magazines he said may have injured the gunman from taking his wife's life when he took six drives. >> when he tried to reload, he dropped the magazine and a woman grabbed it and it gave bystanders a time to tackle him. >> reporter: republican lindsay lindsey graham offered a counter example of a woman running out of bullets defending herself. some democratic senators have introduced legislation to ban high capacity magazines and assault style weapons, expanding background checks also up for debate. >> my problem with background checks is you're never going to get criminals to go through universal back ground checks. >> reporter: wayne lapierre pressed the nra's position. >> the criminals won't go to purchase the guns because there will be a background check. we'll stop them from the original purchase. you miss that point completely and i think it's basic. >> senator, i think you missed it. >> let there be order. >> reporter: getting any new legislation passed is expected to be difficult. there are gun rights supporters on both sides of the aisle.
Jan 30, 2013 3:00am PST
and it will be a showdown between two powerful names. on one side, the ceo of the nra will testify. on the other side, mark kelly, the husband of former congresswoman gabrielle giffords will thereby to support new gun control rules. and we hear now that giffords herself may speak at the beginning of that hearing. >>> developing story out of alabama. police trying to negotiate with a gunman who is holding a six-year-old boy hostage in an underground bunker. it all started at 4:00 p.m. yesterday in midland city. the 65-year-old suspect boarded a school bus, shot the driver, and grabbed a boy. >> he started telling him he needed a kid because something about the law coming after him. then he shot the bus driver and the driver's foot was gas and we went backwards and everybody started screaming and then the bus driver was still there and we just all got off the bus and went to a neighbor's house. >> gretchen: unfortunately the bus driver did die. swat team members still on the scene of that house. they've been communicating with the gunman. we're told the child needs medication and the suspect has allowed poli